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        <article-title>Challenges of Podcast: Research of E-didactic Potential in Adult Education</article-title>
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          <string-name>Maroje Višić</string-name>
          <xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff0">0</xref>
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        <contrib contrib-type="author">
          <string-name>Mirela Müller</string-name>
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          <label>0</label>
          <institution>Libertas International University</institution>
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          <addr-line>Trg John F. Kennedy 6B, 10000 Zagreb</addr-line>
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          <institution>Croatia University of Split, Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences</institution>
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          <addr-line>Poljička cesta 35, 21000 Split</addr-line>
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          <country country="HR">Croatia</country>
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      <abstract>
        <p>Lifelong learning is not just an aspiration, but a reality. The term 'podcasting' or 'podcasting' thus refers to the creation and offering of audio or video files that are distributed over the Internet. This article deals with the topic use of didactic video podcasts in the teaching and learning of adults, especially foreigners, in Germany in the federal state of Rheinland-Pfalz. The survey was conducted from April 2021 to the end of June 2022 at the Adult Education center in the city of Frankenthal, Germany. A deliberate sample of respondents (N = 38) foreigners who came to live in Germany with their families and want to learn A1 level of German was selected. The results indicate that 35% of respondents believe that they took notes and understood podcasts very well, then 28% believe in the possibility of external technical support for podcasts. The aim of the research is to examine the perception of adults about the impact of podcasts used during a foreign language course, i.e., its effectiveness for acquiring basic knowledge. More than half of the exams think that using podcasts better memorizes the material. These results can be an indicator of a successful teaching process as a new e-didactics in adult education but also a motivation for future professionals in adult education centers, including higher levels of language learning.</p>
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        <kwd>1 Educational podcast</kwd>
        <kwd>adult education</kwd>
        <kwd>e-didactic</kwd>
        <kwd>motivation</kwd>
        <kwd>live lifelong learning</kwd>
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      <title>1. Introduction</title>
      <p>
        Media plays a role in many areas of life, and its role in the scientific disciplines is becoming increasingly
important. A podcast contains a collection of individual media contributions (episodes), i.e., audio or
video files. The term podcast is a combination of the English word "broadcasting" (=
broadcast/transmission) and the well-known MP3 player "iPod" from Apple. A podcast is an audio or
video file that is usually available free of charge on the Internet. Anyone can create and publish such a
contribution themselves [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref4">4</xref>
        ]. Podcasts are now offered frequently and successfully. For an overview,
there are many podcast directories. The largest and best known in Germany are the following: iTunes
Music Store; www.podcast.de; www.podster.de and www.mevio.com (but in English) [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref1">1</xref>
        ]. The iPod is
the most popular podcast playback device [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref2">2</xref>
        ]. However, competing products such as other laptops and
MP3 players are also often used for playback. Users obtain their podcasts primarily from internet
platforms [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref3">3</xref>
        ]. Further developments in the field of information and communication technology does
not go unnoticed by instructors of foreign language didactics [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref6">6</xref>
        ]. The innovative didactic-technical
potentials of podcasts for learning German as a foreign language is often discussed as part of the new
educational paradigm in adult education [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref11">11</xref>
        ]. Authentic podcasts can be used in foreign language
lessons that were not produced with a foreign language didactic intention and were not modified for the
lesson or foreign language learning [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref7">7</xref>
        ]. But there are also didactic podcasts. This means that the audio
text is spoken more slowly and/or simplified in language. Podcasts have been around for about ten years
and have been spreading rapidly for about five years [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref5">5</xref>
        ]. Of course, auditory and audio-visual media
such as radio and television, cassettes and CDs, videos, and DVDs already existed a few decades earlier.
From the point of view of foreign language teaching, it is interesting to observe what didactic potential
the new medium can attest to, especially in adult education. So far, homework in foreign language
lessons has mostly consisted of written tasks. Podcasts offer the opportunity to give oral language
productions as homework that can be checked and evaluated [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref6">6</xref>
        ]. A teacher can give students individual
feedback on pronunciation, intonation, vocabulary, grammar, etc., which is usually not possible to a
sufficient extent during the lesson. However, this requires additional effort on the part of the teacher
and technical requirements and previous knowledge on the part of the learners [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref8">8</xref>
        ]. Especially at the
time of the COVID-19 pandemic, podcasts played a very important role in the center for Adult
Education in Frankenthal in Germany for foreigners who came from different countries and had to learn
German quickly because they were looking for work. The didactic potential thus includes various
aspects that are discussed in the specialist literature, mostly in the form of field reports or as
didacticmethodical suggestions [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref9">9</xref>
        ]. This is initially not surprising and necessary when new technical
possibilities arise from newly developed media and applications. The teachers first have to be familiar
with these media in order to use them in their lessons, and it is helpful to see practical examples of what
a methodically and didactically meaningful use can look like. From the point of view of foreign
language research, however, it is urgently necessary for empirical research to be carried out in this area.
      </p>
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      <title>2. E-didactic potential of podcasts</title>
      <p>
        Educational Podcast are basically media technologies used in educational contexts. But this media
technology makes specific scenarios and educational arrangements possible. Depending on the group
scale and the number of participants, the podcast can be easily didactically (re)adapted, i.e., the content
of the thematic unit cam be adapted to meet the set learning goal. [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref12">12</xref>
        ]. The representation of knowledge
is brought to the fore in instructional teaching, for example, by recording lectures and lectures or
explanations [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref4">4</xref>
        ]. The structure of the learning content can be designed sequentially. The possibility of
repeating sections of the lecture that are not understood without penalty can increase the motivation of
the learners. The realization of educational podcast seems simple: Start recording software, start
recording, record, and annotate [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref11">11</xref>
        ]. Then the product is put online together with a text-based
description ('show notes') and the target group is automatically informed about the existence of the new
learning material. In order to successfully create podcasts, it is important to deal with the design of the
content, the technologies are chosen, and the publication. For the development of educational podcast,
it is significant to consider didactic principles both in the design and in the use of podcasts. On the other
hand, it is significant to examine the podcast medium in terms of its interaction between different
methods, learning content, and target groups [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref6">6</xref>
        ]. It can be used in the learning process to present
knowledge in a representative and organizational manner and to support personal communication [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref13">13</xref>
        ].
They can thus be assigned to both an instructive and a constructivist understanding of teaching/learning.
Learners can then freely select their learning material according to their own needs or learning status.
In this model, the producers act as teachers from whom the recipients should learn something [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref7">7</xref>
        ]. In
the flipped classroom concept, instructional educators can also be used to acquire prior knowledge in
order to then stimulate a discursive discussion of what has been learned in the learning group. This form
of use of podcasts promotes constructivist learning: knowledge is not given and learned but has to be
developed, processed, structured, and transferred in order to culminate in the construction of one's own
cognitive schemes [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref12">12</xref>
        ]. This process is supported by working on the construction of one's own
representation of knowledge. It is important for motivation to learn that the podcast has the necessary
curricular references. Furthermore, legal aspects must also be taken into account when producing
podcasts, for example, copyright, usage, and personal rights. Screencasts are mostly used for clear
instructions. However, they can also be used to present work results at events. Podcasts allow students
to conduct interviews with scientists or practice experts, develop and record scenic dialogues, and
research and develop their own features. In the context of educational policy, in addition to media
education, a learner-centred approach to teaching is expected with a view to supporting and promoting
self-directed, lifelong learning [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref7">7</xref>
        ]. It can be expected that the dominance of text and image for learning
contexts, as we know it from textbooks, will be reduced and learners' habits of acquiring learning
content through audio and video elements in the form of podcasts will increase [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref10">10</xref>
        ]. The starting point
of the present work is the guiding principle that the interaction of technological and pedagogical
advances must be thoroughly researched since the pedagogical effectiveness of digital media in foreign
language didactics is not always undisputed. Especially in distance learning or blended learning,
podcasts are ideal for different individual work, whereby the podcast episodes should not last longer
than about 30 minutes [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref6">6</xref>
        ]. Of course, in addition to professional podcasts, teachers can also use
specially produced podcast episodes in class. However, a more intensive examination of the medium is
necessary, and the recording should under no circumstances take the form of a lecture recording. For
example, podcasts can be used as input for a new topic section [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref8">8</xref>
        ]. The students should listen to a given
podcast episode in order to prepare for the joint video conference. If you want to go deeper into the
content of a podcast or focus on the medium itself as an object of investigation. Short assignments can
be very useful. When creating these tasks, it should be borne in mind that podcasts do not primarily
convey data and factual knowledge, but rather concepts and opinions.
      </p>
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      <title>3. Methods</title>
    </sec>
    <sec id="sec-4">
      <title>3.1. Sample of respondents and data processing</title>
      <p>The survey was conducted from April 2021 to the end of June 2022 at the Adult Education center in
the city of Frankenthal, Germany. A deliberate sample of respondents (N = 38) foreigners who came to
live in Germany with their families and want to learn A1 level of German was selected. The sample
was randomly selected with the consent of the respondents to participate in the research. This article,
therefore, deals with the topic 'Use of e-didactic podcasts when learning German from foreigners and
refers to adult education. The online survey form podcast or evaluation form was carried out in the
research. In this specific case, it consisted of 84% women and 16% men. Of the 38 respondents, more
than one-half ½ were aged between 34 and 42 years, while less than 9% were over 51 years of age. It
also turned out to be heterogeneous: in addition to some participants with a good knowledge of German,
there were mainly participants with rather low knowledge of German. What all seminar participants
had in common, however, was that they were working with podcasts for the first time and using this
teaching medium for the first time to support learning German. A retrospective analysis was conducted
through a questionnaire with 12 open-ended questions (participants can enter their own opinion) and a
closed-ended questionnaire (the unit of measurement was Lickert scale). Data were collected and
processed in the statistical program data processing (SPPS version 23) for the application of descriptive
and inferential statistics. In order to further explain the obtained results, the Shapiro-Wilk normality
test is used to validate the assumption of normality. Figure 1 shows a screenshot of the individual
podcasts posted that are implied in the Google Classroom.</p>
    </sec>
    <sec id="sec-5">
      <title>3.1.1. Research questions and educational content of the podcast</title>
      <p>Students were motivated to work on podcasts because the topics were from everyday life. One of the
questions was: how often, when and under what circumstances have you watched a single video
podcast? Please describe in your own words. As well as these questions: What problems did you notice
when dealing with podcasts; How would you describe a useful video podcast, and please explain: What
should German teachers’ pay particular attention to when using podcasts? As part of a German seminar,
which was intended to focus on the targeted training and development of language skills and abilities,
the respondents worked with didactic podcasts for a total of four weeks. This was the didactic video
podcast offered by educators and Germanist Mirela Müller and Annette Schauberger inserted the
ematerial of podcasts through Google Classroom. The formulated podcasts offer several topics f z. B.
the audio offer “Top topic with lexicon vocabulary” then another example of the podcast offer was “My
life in Germany”; "My family", "My work", “Abroad and I" etc., which is suitable for learners of
German from level A1. The tasks for listening and listening-sighting comprehension enable the
respondents to learn German independently and they are always divided into three categories:
preseeing, during-seeing, and post-seeing tasks. Other research questions related (i.e., the last four) to a
closed-ended type of question where their assessment of motivation for a particular variable was
examined using the Likert scale.</p>
    </sec>
    <sec id="sec-6">
      <title>4. Results</title>
      <p>The results are recorded in Table 1 in the form of a ranking.
I enjoyed working in the seminar. (Interest/enjoyment subscale)
I believe that working with Podcasts is important because it can help me
learn German. (Usefulness/usability subscale)
%
13%
11%</p>
      <p>MD
1.35
2.25</p>
      <p>SD
0.54
0.87</p>
      <p>I found watching VPs to be quite enjoyable. (Interest/enjoyment
subscale)
I was very relaxed while working with Podcasts. (Subscale
pressure/tension)
After listening to Podcasts I felt good enough. (Subscale Perceived
Competence)
I felt it was my choice to do the job. (Subscale Perceived Freedom of
Choice)
I should work hard on it. (Subscale effort/importance)
I did this because I wanted to. (Interest/enjoyment subscale)
12%
11%
24%
8%
6%
15%
3.25
2.26
2.51
4.79
The results indicate that 35% (M=3.51, SD=0.42) of respondents believe that they took notes and
understood podcasts very well, then 28% (M=3.51, SD=0.42) believe the possibility of external
technical support of podcasts, and 21% (M=1.25, SD=0.41) believe that the use of transcripts/subtitles
is very good. Figure 2 contains the data and results of the question with the theme the view of the
podcasts.
To promote learning German with regard
to: listening comprehension, writing skills
and everyday and colloquial forms
Learners are given the opportunity to
memorize (partly by listening to or</p>
      <p>playing back what they do not
understand by rewinding and forwarding
33</p>
      <p>67
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90
Figure 2 indicates that 67% of respondents (M = 1.25, SD = 0.61) believe that the podcast offers them
the opportunity "Learners are given the opportunity to memorize (partly by listening to or playing back
what they do not understand by rewinding and forwarding"). Then 33% of respondents are of the
opinion that podcast helps to promote learning German with regard to listening comprehension, writing
skills and every day and colloquial forms”. The table shows the following: There is a positive learning
climate when learning German with a podcast, so learners are motivated. Assess the study participants
podcast as effective learning, because they enable multi-channel reception as well as active and
sustainable learning. The data and results for the question with the topic "Well suited/motivating
podcasts" were recorded. The following is established: The criteria for the selection of podcasts refer
to thematic requirements. And the criteria when selecting podcasts refer to the corresponding degree of
difficulty of the podcast and thus to aspects such as age, level, speaking speed, video length, didactic
elements, and music. Choosing the right podcasts leads to increased learner motivation. However,
choosing the wrong podcast leads to concentration difficulties or demotivation. Here it is very good to
consider that it is always necessary to imply e-didactic principles when formulating the podcast
material.
Figure 3 shows the data of the other reasons for using a podcast. Opinions are that 36% of respondents
(M = 1.25, SD = 0.48) consider podcasts want to retain the interest of listeners in the long term, then
27% (M = 2.45, SD = 0.98) podcasts can support a dialogue about social issues, then 26% (M = 2.41,
SD = 0.78) podcasts can help listeners see their world in new ways and only 11% (M = 1.78, SD =
0.58), believe that podcasts tap into the human need to hear stories. Asked if you would continue your
education in the future via the Podcast for level A2 to B1 if you could choose. The results of the
respondents' opinions are shown in Figure 4.
No significant differences were found between respondents with prior knowledge of a foreign language
and respondents without prior knowledge of the language in the variable between e-learning quality
No significant differences were found between respondents with prior knowledge of L2 and respondents
who had no prior knowledge of the language in the variable between the effectiveness of the podcast
for acquiring communication skills while slightly less showed a statistical difference close to - p &lt;.05
in the variable importance of e-didactic educational material Socialization podcast for respondents with
prior knowledge of a foreign language. Also, the researchers examined two teachers who were tutors
of the podcast, the question was related to their opinion on the results achieved by the students at the
center for Adult Education.
and intrinsic motivation via podcasts for reading language and writing contexts and self-evaluation of
foreign language skills.</p>
    </sec>
    <sec id="sec-7">
      <title>5. Conclusion</title>
      <p>
        The didactic potential thus includes various aspects, which are mostly discussed in the specialist
literature in the form of field reports or as didactic-methodical suggestions. This is initially not
surprising and necessary when new technical possibilities arise from newly developed media and
applications. Podcasting for education has been prolific in recent years, both inside and outside of
educational institutions. A growing number of higher education institutions around the world have
incorporated podcasts into both on-campus e-learning modules [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref14">14</xref>
        ]. The teachers first have to be
familiar with these media in order to use them in their lessons, and it is helpful to see practical examples
of what a methodically and didactically meaningful use can look like. From the point of view of foreign
language research, however, there is an urgent need for empirical research to be carried out in this area.
These results can be an indicator of a successful teaching process as a new e-didactics in adult education
but also a motivation for future professionals in adult education centers, including higher levels of
language learning. The results indicate that 35% of respondents believe that they took notes and
understood podcasts very well, then 28% believe the possibility of external technical support of
podcasts, and 21% believe that the use of transcripts/subtitles is very good. 67% of respondents believe
that the podcast offers them the opportunity "Learners are given the opportunity to memorize (partly by
listening to or playing back what they do not understand by rewinding and forwarding"). Then 33% of
respondents are of the opinion that podcast helps to promote learning German with regard to listening
comprehension, writing skills and every day and colloquial forms. No significant differences were
found between respondents with prior knowledge of L2 and respondents who had no prior knowledge
of the language in the variable between the effectiveness of the podcast for acquiring communication
skills while slightly less showed a statistical difference close to - p &lt;.05 in the variable importance of
e-didactic educational material Socialization podcast for respondents with prior knowledge of a foreign
language. No significant differences were found between respondents with prior knowledge of a foreign
language and respondents without prior knowledge of the language in the variable between e-learning
quality and intrinsic motivation via podcasts for reading language and writing contexts and
selfevaluation of foreign language skills. This result was also to be expected because didactically designing
podcasts can remove certain prejudices if someone has better prior knowledge does not mean that they
will later overpower that student with poorer prior knowledge. In addition to individualization, the
promotion of autonomy is now a didactic-methodical one that is often linked to too high expectations
principle. Figure 4 indicates the data of the respondents' opinions on the continuation of language
learning through podcasts. 97% of respondents would continue to learn other language levels such as
A2-B1. Authentic podcasts can be used in foreign language lessons that have not been produced with
a foreign language didactic intention and have not been modified for the lesson or foreign language
learning. But there are also didactic podcasts. This means that the audio text is spoken more slowly
and/or simplified in language. In principle, anyone can create audio or video files and upload them to a
corresponding server. That is why the range of podcasts available on the Internet is very large, but the
quality also varies greatly. Podcasts do not provide any technically completely new possibilities, but
they combine the advantages of the previous process and product media (multiple listening, topicality,
large amount of material, low costs) and offer the possibility of simple production and distribution or
publication of audio and audio-visual texts [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref14">14</xref>
        ]. Podcasts make it possible to carry out listening texts
not only as a joint activity with the whole class but also in other organizational forms, e. g. in a group
or individual work, the students can - depending on their performance level - work with different
listening texts or listening comprehension tasks and work on them at their own pace [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref12">12</xref>
        ]. In addition,
independent learning is also possible outside foreign language lessons with the help of podcasts. A
podcast offered regularly over a longer period of time can give independent learning a fixed rhythm,
i.e., clock it, and thus serve as a learning pacemaker. Podcasts do not provide any technically
completely new possibilities, but they combine – as we have seen – the advantages of the previous
process and product media. Nonetheless, podcasts are widely seen as positive learning tools that can
have the tangible benefit of bringing teachers and learners together, often across long distances. Rather
than being framed as tools for enhancing student grades, then, podcasts are widely seen as a means for
engaging students in ways that might motivate them in learning content and increasing rapport between
teacher and students [
        <xref ref-type="bibr" rid="ref15">15</xref>
        ]. New media such as podcasts should be taken up and discussed by e-didactics.
Above all with regard to the extent to which they can be integrated into regular teaching and linked to
working on educational standards, other media, and teaching scenarios. Podcasts offered over a longer
period of time can give independent learning a fixed rhythm, i.e., clock it, and thus serve as a
“pacemaker for learning”. Above all with regard to the extent to which they can be integrated into
regular teaching and linked to working on educational standards, other media, and teaching scenarios.
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